Tuesday, December 15, 2009

ICQ ops refusing to enforce their own terms of service...

Well, some of you were in IRC today, and saw the op named cficare just totally ignore the fact that poor Tom (whom I actually dislike, but no one deserves this), had his real name splattered all over the irc channel.

I took offense to this, why should cficare not enforce the terms of service?

For this, I got banned.... and now, for your enjoyment... the private conversation between us:

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[16:45] [cficare] i warned u to stop u wouldnt
[16:45] [SinSeer] you're not doing your job.
[16:45] [SinSeer] your sole reason for existing is to enforce the terms of service.
[16:45] [SinSeer] not the ones you LIKE. but all of them.
[16:46] [SinSeer] i do not even LIKE tom, but i do not think he should have to suffer through you ops letting people post his real name, daily.
[16:46] [SinSeer] please tell me why you didn't scroll back to 16:29 EST
[16:46] [SinSeer] to see the offense?
[16:46] [cficare] well firstly i don't have access to the logs and secondly i got Op on hear say
[16:47] [SinSeer] 16:29.
[16:47] [SinSeer] you were in the room.
[16:47] [SinSeer] logs will show that.

[16:48] [SinSeer] sigh. guess we'll have to bring this to the ops with higher power, since you don't want to do your job.
[16:49] [cficare] ok do what you please i am busy now please leave me alone and
stop threatening me and harrassing me
[16:49] [cficare] thank you
[16:51] [SinSeer] lol omg
[16:51] [cficare] Auto Response: I am using a secure query event.
[16:51] [SinSeer] so, what is your response to me asking you to check your logs,
for the record?
[16:51] [SinSeer] or is that it?


[16:52] [cficare] i told you i don't have access to the bot loggs as i am not a bot Op
[16:52] [SinSeer] and i told you.
[16:52] [SinSeer] that this happened while you were in the room.
[16:52] [SinSeer] you don't NEED bot access for that.

[16:52] [SinSeer] to my eyes, and everyone else in there, you just refused to do your job, and banned me because i pointed it out.
[16:53] [cficare] r u going to leave me alone because if i did miss anything it is your doing as u have been on my case since i entered the room
[16:53] [cficare] look the people in there were telling you to stop as well
[16:54] [SinSeer] i am trying to get to the bottom of this.
[16:54] [SinSeer] you made a mistake, just cooperate with me
[16:54] [SinSeer] all i need to see is 'yes, sinseer, i see where the troll broke TOS, and i have banned them now' and i will stop.
[16:54] [cficare] well i have told you i am not going to Op as you order me to firstly and secondly i didn't see it
[16:55] [SinSeer] excuse me, if you don't understand my english, perhaps that's your fault, not mine.
[16:55] [SinSeer] i did not 'tell' you to give me ops. i suggested i'd volunteer my time.

[16:55] [SinSeer] what i DID tell you to do, is to enforce icqs terms of service regarding private information.
[16:55] [SinSeer] you know, icq can be sued... it's happened before to irc networks.

[16:56] [SinSeer] so you are refusing to actually scroll back to 16:29 then?
[16:56] [SinSeer] i just want to know for when i make my report against you
[16:58] [cficare] i am refusing to let u order me around like you slave
[16:59] [SinSeer] I'm only asking you to do your job as an icq op. are you refusing that position of responsibility then?
[16:59] [SinSeer] perhaps you should send a message to libra stating you are not ready for ops, as you can't do your job.

[17:00] [SinSeer] anyways, this will make a nice story for my blog, thanks... an  icq op refusing to enforce their terms of service due to personal reasons, i guess.


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Now, I like libra, the person who runs that network. She's generally pretty easy to get along with, and knows what she's doing... but this fool... won't even do his 'job'.

And yes, I know it's not a REAL job.... they don't get paid. But they still need to do it.

Thanks for listerning, and try to enjoy IRC... I can point out some other rooms, if you are tired of the ICQ staff not actually keeping our room troll-free. Personally, I'm sick of the racists and homophobes that ICQ allows to infest that channel. 


Poor Poor #atheism... no one to protect us.